Best Siege Upgrades Shadow Of War

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Building an army in Shadow of War is, alongside your story-based quests, one of the main points of focus you'll have in the game.

Dominating orcs is the way to do it, but there are different rules for different types of enemy, and a variety of other factors to bear in mind when deciding who to dominate and what to do with them once you have.

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Below, we'll take you through all you need to know on building your crack team of orcy followers, whilst you can head over to our main Shadow of War guide and walkthrough hub for way, way more guides and tips on the game in general.

How to dominate orcs in Shadow of War - recruiting followers explained

Dominating orcs is simple enough. You'll pick up the ability to do so after the story mission Ring of Power, at the start of Act 2 - so that means no creating followers or dominating Captains in Act 1 at all, to be clear.

Once the ability is unlocked from your skill tree, you can dominate, and therefore recruit, any broken enemy captain you encounter who isn't an Overlord, with one other caveat: you must be at least the same level as the orc you're trying to dominate.

If the orc out-levels you, you'll need to use the 'Shame' option from the choices that pop up when you try to dominate them. This weakens them by a few levels - annoyingly, if you're only one level below them, for instance, it could take them a good four or five levels below you.

When should you start building your army?

This is the key question, really, as you will, of course, raise your level significantly by playing through the game. Orcs that you encountered at a low level won't level up with you, whilst orcs that you encounter for the first time will be scaled to your level.

That means you might recruit Captain at level 12 who seemed great at the time, but he'll be pretty useless when you're in the level 40s and all the enemies you're encountering are at a similar level.

So should you wait to dominate Captains? Well, not necessarily. Firstly you'll need to dominate enough to overthrow The Etten quite early on, as it's a necessary mission for advancing part of the story. Second, there is a way to level up your orcs as you go - and we'll dive into that just below.

How to level up orcs and build the best army in Shadow of War

To build the best army, you're essentially going to be keeping an eye out for enemy Captains and Warchiefs with desirable traits, dominating them, and then levelling them up.

For desirable traits, look for combat-based immunities and resistances, with as few weaknesses - mortal or otherwise - as possible. The orcs you recruit will be fighting in mostly close-range, densely-packed encounters, either during fortress sieges and the endgame Shadow Wars, or the Fight Pits, so it's combat ability all the way.

There are two ways you can level up your dominated orc Captains and Warchiefs in Shadow of War:

  • Send them on missions - select the Follower in question from the Army menu and from there you can send them on a few types of mission, either in one-on-ones against other enemy Captains, or in ambush missions accompanied by other allied Captains. You can interfere with these missions or leave them to resolve by themselves, as with any other Nemesis mission on the map. In our experience, Followers gained one level if successful, so this can be a bit of a slog.
  • Send them to the Fight Pits - the higher risk, higher reward option is to send them to the Fight Pits. If you have loads of Followers, and are happy to see some go to waste, the best bet here is to have two Followers fight each other. You'll lose the one that dies, but will get an item of loot from their body, and the victor will gain one to five levels.

Alternatively, you can risk them in the Maggot, Warrior, and Champion-tier battles against enemy Captains (their level is higher as you go throught the tiers). If they lose, you can at least dive in and dominate the victor, and if they win they'll go up several levels. This is also a decent way to earn Mirian, but note that you need to capture a region's fortress to gain access to its respective Fight Pits.

Everything you need for every step of Shadow of War.

Need more help? Our Shadow of War guide and walkthrough gives you an overview of everything you need, but if you need something in particular, we have pages on Shadow of War Fortress Sieges, how to earn Mirian in Shadow of War, a guide for how to import your Nemesis and Follower to Shadow of War, collectibles guides like how to get all Shadow of War Legendary Armour and Weapons sets, a list of Lost Artifacts and Web of Fate locations, and Ithildin Door poem solutions and Shadows of the Past, along with how to grind XP in Shadow of War to power through the tricky Shadow Wars endgame and get the true ending. Finally, there's Shadow of War's army building explained and the best skills and how to earn Skill Points.

You can actually level up orcs by letting them kill you if they're an enemy, too. They'll go up a few levels and even potentially earn a new trait or two in the process, and this is probably a faster, easier way to do it than dominating them first, as long as you can bear the humiliation!

Also, note that they'll need to actually land the killing blow on you to get the kill, otherwise some randomer could pick up the promotion instead. If you engage them in a prearranged Nemesis mission, meanwhile, then running away and letting them win has a similar effect, as if you fixed the Nemesis mission for them to win it anyway - you could also just kill their opponent and have them win that Nemesis mission and level up that way, too.

Shadow of War's skills and their respective resource, Skill Points, are your main system of progression through the game.

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You'll pick up plenty of Skill Points as you go, but there are a few key ways you can earn more of them over time, and in the early levels you can make your life singificantly easier by prioritising your choices and unlocking the best skills as soon as you can.

Below we'll take you through everything you need to know about skills and Skill Points, whilst over in our main Shadow of War guide and walkthrough hub you'll find guides and tips for all aspects of the game.

Shadow of War skills explained - the best skills from the Shadow of War skill tree

In Shadow of War, all of your skills are unlocked via the skill tree in-game. It works from left to right, and is split into six sections (Combat, Predator, Ranged, Wraith, Mounted, and Story) - so you need to unlock Detonate before Freeze Pin in the Ranged category, for instance.

Here's a quick look at that skill tree:

You unlock skills surprisingly quickly just by playing Quests and the game in general, but there are still some skills you'll want to prioritise, and some you'll do fine leaving until later. Here's a look at some of the best to prioritise (in no particular order), and those that can wait.

The best Shadow of War skills:

  • Execution - An obvious one, but the ability to perform combat executions is essential for clearing out hordes of enemies and chunking away damage from Captains and tougher foes. It's the first in the Combat line, so pick this up very early on to make your life far easier.
  • Shadow Strike + Chain of Shadows upgrade - One of the more memorable skills from Shadow of Mordor, Shadow Strike is just as useful for maneuvering, escaping, and quickly travelling through Mordor as it is for general combat. The Chain of Shadows upgrade takes it to another level, and as it's at the end of the Ranged skill branch you'll unlock some very useful skills along the way, too.
  • Treasure Hunter - This one almost feels like patching out a poor design decision. Normally, you'll need to hit R1/RB to pick up any loot from the environment. This ability lets you just walk over it, which is far less awkward as a system in general, almost as if it just should have been the way it works in the first place.. you'll find it at the end of the Wraith skill branch.
  • Perfect Counter + Fatal Counter - Perfect Counter is useful for buying yourself a little space, but it's the Fatal Counter that really makes it stand out. Instantly killing enemies that attack you makes a market difference to your ability to deal with large crowds. Endlessly slapping orcs is a thing of the past.
  • Ice Storm - Another memorable skill from Shadow of Mordor, the ability to freeze enemies and rapidly beat the hell out of them is a great way to buy yourself time, build up your hitstreak and Might, and just generally make combat more enjoyable for yourself. It's a great way to cheese Captains, too - even if they're a Defender class just get behind them, give them a punch, and tear them apart.

The least important Shadow of War skills:

  • Shadow Dominate upgrade - A completely superfluous upgrade to Shadow Strike, avoid wasting a Skill Point on this. You can knock down enemies with a non-lethal Shadow Strike anyway (by pressing Triangle/Y instead of Square/X), and then just immediately Dominate them while they're stunned.
  • Dragon Rider - Yep, it's cool to ride a Drake, but until the late game there really isn't much point in it, with Sieges easy enough to win with ground combat and no other battles necessitating it. Unlock this one for fun, rather then for its usefulness.
  • Deadly Spectre - There's just about no circumstance in which this is any more useful than a regular use of your ability to Stealth Kill enemies. Pick up the prior skill in the tree, Wrath Chain, instead, and clear out multiple enemies with ease.
  • Any Elven Rage upgrades - Elven Rage comes along so infrequently in our experience - even after blowing up a dozen orcs with explosive barrels - that any upgrades to it just aren't worth the Skill Points. It's a nice treat to be reminded of now and then, but it's overpowered enough as it is when you get it, anyway.

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Need more help? Our Shadow of War guide and walkthrough gives you an overview of everything you need, but if you need something in particular, we have pages on Shadow of War Fortress Sieges, how to earn Mirian in Shadow of War, a guide for how to import your Nemesis and Follower to Shadow of War, collectibles guides like how to get all Shadow of War Legendary Armour and Weapons sets, a list of Lost Artifacts and Web of Fate locations, and Ithildin Door poem solutions and Shadows of the Past, along with how to grind XP in Shadow of War to power through the tricky Shadow Wars endgame and get the true ending. Finally, there's Shadow of War's army building explained and the best skills and how to earn Skill Points.

How to earn Skill Points in Shadow of War

There are a few ways to earn Skill Points in Shadow of War, but the most obvious is by simply playing through the story quests to level up.

You'll likely have an abundance of them - we had all of the main skills unlocked by level 25, having only played about a third of the story - but you may want to quickly grind out a few to unlock a certain end-of-branch skill like Shadow Strike, so with that in mind here's a quick list of all the ways you can get them.

How to earn Skill Points in Shadow of War

  • Levelling up - You earn one Skill Point every time you level up, and you level up with just about every story mission (they give increasing amounts of XP as you go). If you've completed them and still want grind out a few levels, we have a guide on how to earn XP in Shadow of War that covers exactly that.
  • Complete Fight Pits (Maggots) quests - Each time you unlock the Fight Pights in a region (done by capturing that region's fortress), you'll also unlock the first Fight Pits mission, Maggots. Completing this quest in each region grants you one Skill Point, but note that it's a one-off, so you can only get the Skill Point once per mission.
  • Get Silver or greater in Shadows of the Past - We cover these in more detail in our Ithildin Doors and Shadows of the Past guide, but in brief they're combat challenges that you can earn Bronze, Silver, or Gold ranks in depending on how well you do. For every one you complete at Silver rank or above, you'll get a Skill Point, so there are plenty up for grabs!
  • Complete all Webs of Fate in a region - As with the above, we cover Webs of Fate and Shelob Memories in a separate guide, but each time you get all Sheleb Memories in a region you'll unlock a Skill Point, so they're another handy resource.
  • Collect all Gondorian Artifacts in a region - Much the same as Webs of Fate, if you collect all Gondorian Lost Artifacts in a region you'll get a Skill Point each time. They're marked on your map after capturing Haedir towers, so they're easy enough to find!